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What is most remarkable about the assortment of discipline programs on the market today is the number of fundamental assumptions they seem to share. Some may advocate the use of carrots rather than sticks; some may refer to punishments as "logical consequences." But virtually all take for granted that the teacher must be in control of the classroom, and that what we need are strategies to get students to comply with the adult's expectations.

Alfie Kohn challenged these widely accepted premises, and with them the very idea of classroom "management," when the original edition of Beyond Discipline was published in 1996. Since then, his path-breaking book has invited hundreds of thousands of educators to question the assumption that problems in the classroom are always the fault of students who don't do what they're told; instead, it may be necessary to reconsider what it is that they've been told to do—or to learn. Kohn shows how a fundamentally cynical view of children underlies the belief that we must tell them exactly how we expect them to behave and then offer "positive reinforcement" when they obey.

Just as memorizing someone else's right answers fails to promote students' intellectual development, so does complying with someone else's expectations for how to act fail to help students develop socially or morally. Kohn contrasts the idea of discipline, in which things are done to students to control their behavior, with an approach in which we work with students to create caring communities where decisions are made together.

Beyond Discipline has earned the status of an education classic, a vital alternative to all the traditional manuals that consist of techniques for imposing control. For this 10th anniversary edition, Kohn adds a new afterword that expands on the book's central themes and responds to questions from readers. Packed with stories from real classrooms around the country, seasoned with humor and grounded in a vision as practical as it is optimistic, Beyond Discipline shows how students are most likely to flourish in schools that have moved toward collaborative problem solving—and beyond discipline.

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  1. ISBN-10
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  5. Publication date
    August 15, 2006
  6. Language
    English
  7. Dimensions
    5.98 x 0.43 x 9.06 inches
  8. Print length
    182 pages
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Alfie Kohn is the author of many other books about education and human behavior, including Punished by Rewards, The Schools Our Children Deserve, and Unconditional Parenting.

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Association for Supervision & Curriculum Development; 10th Anniversary edition (August 15, 2006)
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Paperback ‏ : ‎ 182 pages
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1416604723
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1416604723
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 10.4 ounces
  • Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 5.98 x 0.43 x 9.06 inches
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Alfie Kohn writes and speaks widely on human behavior, education, and parenting. He is the author of twelve books and hundreds of articles. Kohn has been described by Time Magazine as “perhaps the country’s most outspoken critic of education’s fixation on grades and test scores.” He has appeared twice on “Oprah,” as well as on “The Today Show,” NPR’s “Talk of the Nation,” and on many other TV and radio programs. He spends much of his time speaking at education conferences, as well as to parent groups, school faculties, and researchers. Kohn lives (actually) in the Boston area – and (virtually) at www.alfiekohn.org.

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Customers find the book extremely enlightening for teachers, with one noting it provides well-processed perspectives on classroom management. They praise its readability, with one customer describing it as a must-read for all involved in education.

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Customers find the book extremely enlightening, particularly for teachers, with one customer noting it provides a refreshing look at creating a democratic classroom.

"...the concepts of the "child-directed classroom" and giving students legitimate choices...." Read more

"...This book blew me away. It's provocative, it's funny and it challenges so many of the unnecessarily cruel and transparently manipulatie behaviors we..." Read more

"The good: There are a lot of very good points in this book. I have seen first hand what rewards and punishments do. Nothing to stop "bad" behavior...." Read more

"...This book is full of nonsense. Go buy the books he pans and follow the advice in them. They will actually help you...." Read more

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  • Alabama Forever
    5.0 out of 5 stars ...brave enough to discredit Lee and Marlene Canter? Bravo!
    Reviewed in the United States on January 28, 2011
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    I am so glad that the author was brave enough to stand up to the dogma that Lee and Marlene Canter were professing back in the 1970's and early 80's. What is so sad is that there are plenty of really bad teachers out there that still use Lee and Marlene Canter's Power-Assertive Discipline methods. The Canter methods are completely inappropriate for use in daycare, preschool, and the primary grades. There are disciples of Lee and Marlene Canter still out there working as educators who are really awful teachers. These are the ones who truly believe that it's for the best to tell students how to behave and what to think instead of teaching them how to make their own decisions. I'm so glad that the author wrote this book. He discusses the concepts of the "child-directed classroom" and giving students legitimate choices. He talks about how students learn how to develop "self-regulation skills" (self-discipline). It's absolutely relevant for anyone who wants their students to learn how to think and make decisions on their own. A classic and important read for anyone who wants to teach as a profession. I am so glad the author was brave enough years ago to write this book and to discredit so many of the inappropriate methods Lee and Marlene Canter have been selling.
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  • Dave
    5.0 out of 5 stars Inspirational Book
    Reviewed in the United States on April 12, 2006
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    I read this book while researching my topic for my MA thesis in elementary education. This book blew me away. It's provocative, it's funny and it challenges so many of the unnecessarily cruel and transparently manipulatie behaviors we use as teachers on a daily basis. While I agree that the book doesn't offer a paint by the numbers how to guide for implementing a more democratic and community based classroom, the intelligent reader can understand what needs to be done or at least look elsewhere for answers.

    This book inspired me allow me third grade students to throw out some of the old classroom rules and create new guidelines that they brainstormed, justified and ultimately settled on with me only acting as facilitator. It worked amazingly well and they really came up with some responsible guidelines for class behavior (although I gotta admit I was really holding my breath that they'd try to create some crazy stuff). At first I needed to remind them of these policies THEY CREATED but gradually they began to remind one another and there's been noticeable improvement. They own these new policies and have shown they can think critically and take charge.

    Best book I've ever read in education, hands down.
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    5.0 out of 5 stars Compassion
    Reviewed in the United States on June 9, 2024
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    This book is an insight for those who have kids with ADHD.
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  • Blessed
    4.0 out of 5 stars It’s ok
    Reviewed in the United States on May 23, 2024
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    My son used it for class
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  • Lisa
    5.0 out of 5 stars Community with students is important
    Reviewed in the United States on July 1, 2009
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    I'm buying the book based on the reviews but I also wanted to make a comment on Wordy's review about building relationships in the classroom, "Kohn addresses these problems by insetad building relationships with students and allowing them a chance to make real decisions."

    Last year, I had a boy in my class (10 to 12th graders) who never gave me any problems. He was an semi-active participant in a classroom full of girls! But I had other teachers (come up to me and volunteer) what problem he was in their classes; and the only thing I can attribute to the fact that he wasn't a problem in mine was building community with him as well as the other students based on mutual respect.

    Another reviewer wrote that they'd like some research done on this! This isn't validated but I do know that creating that relationship with my students cut down on approx 50 to 60 % of the discipline problems. ****A smile and a kind word goes a LONG WAY with students (people in general), it's a wonder we have any students graduating at all with the way many teachers treat their students.
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  • cabin fever
    5.0 out of 5 stars It is for the best that some of these ideas be discussed and used ...
    Reviewed in the United States on March 22, 2015
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    This was the kind of book that kept me up at night because I was thinking about Kohn's ideas. This was my first reading of Kohn. I became caught up in my memories of my own education in comparison to what I see in public school's today. It is for the best that some of these ideas be discussed and used in a modern classroom. I have seen some of the old disciplinary techniques bear their heads into classrooms and effect children in a very disturbing way only to cause trauma and humiliation. I know it is easy to assume a quiet class is a well managed class but I think some teachers may not want to admit that fear based discipline leads to an inner violence. We just don't live in those times anymore and cannot hide behind an archaic domineering manner of teaching.
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  • ReadSub
    3.0 out of 5 stars Wordy
    Reviewed in the United States on May 20, 2008
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    The good: There are a lot of very good points in this book. I have seen first hand what rewards and punishments do. Nothing to stop "bad" behavior. The same kids are in detention at my school every week. Also they ask, "What do I get for doing my homework". Kohn addresses these problems by insetad building relationships with students and allowing them a chance to make real decisions. If you were reading this book there are great answers. Building a community would prevent a majority of the "behavior" troubles in the school I teach at. Kohn is not all knowing so not everyone should take everything he says as the absolute truth, nor should they dismiss everything he says.
    The bad: He spent half the book pointing out why others are wrong, this could have been discussed in a chapter. He did not actually show concrete proof this worked, but I challenge anyone to find concrete proof anywhere. Even elaborate studies are never completly conclusive. He only taught for a little while. I guess this means that he is incompetant. Or, it means that he was completely self motivated and didn't spend the tens of thousands of dollars to get another degree and have some one say he was, indeed, competent. Maybe he is well read and spends a lot of time observing. I guess read the book and see if he makes sense or if you think he is a quack.
    Either way this is one of the most important classroom "management" books out there, so as an educator you should read it.
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    5.0 out of 5 stars Revelatory
    Reviewed in Australia on December 2, 2015
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    For most of the year I have been banging my head against brick wall with a particularly troublesome grade. As I got stricter they acted out more and the cycle got worse and worse. As I read this book I realised everything I had been doing was backwards. I only wish I had discovered this book at the start of the year, maybe I could have saved myself and my class from a lot of headaches.
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  • M. Richoux
    5.0 out of 5 stars Paradigm-shifting
    Reviewed in Canada on January 20, 2014
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    This book is sorely needed in our culture - Kohn presents children as "people in the making" rather than wild ruffians who need to be controlled. His work backs up the work of people like Haim Ginott, Thomas Gordon, Dianne Gossen and many others who have a more humanistic approach to raising children than what our culture predominantly sells to parents and teachers. This book is a very important part of a move to more thoughtful and humane ways to raise our young.
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  • gdm123
    5.0 out of 5 stars Looking forward to using these strategies
    Reviewed in Canada on July 8, 2018
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    Learned lots. Relationship is the best way to resolve conflict between students and between students and teachers. Implementing these strategies will be the next challenge.
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